Wednesday, July 31, 2019

"Progressive Christianity" Is After You! Watch Out and Do Not Be Deceived!

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
[2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)].

The word, progressive, is being used frequently now and has been applied for quite some time in the arena of politics and in professing Christian circles. Another word which is like a twin to the word, progressive, would be the word, liberal! A number of church groups have church leaders and clergy who claim to be "progressive" in their professed faith.

One example would be the United Methodist Church which has a considerable number who claim to be progressives as opposed to conservatives, evangelicals, etc. As of this writing (19/07/31) the UMC is in a war over the issue of human sexuality with progressives advocating support for those who live a same-sex lifestyle, including marriage. Conservatives are in opposition to this on basis of God's revelation in the holy Scriptures. Progressives claim cultural change, human reasoning methods, scientific studies, etc to establish their case.

Bishop John Shelby Spong is a retired bishop in the Episcopal Church and some time back put together what he refers to as the 12 Theses of progressive Christianity. He summarizes these in brief statements as given below. You will note that these statements are in direct conflict with God's revelation as given through the holy Scriptures.

The problem began to surface in this country at about the beginning of the 20th Century when some theological garbage was imported from Europe, particularly Germany! It boiled down simply to unbelief in God's activities as reported in Scripture. A bit later the controversy at the beginning of the 20th Century came to be known as the "modernist/fundamentalist" controversy. The modernists were those who did not believe certain portions of the Bible, especially where miracles were reported. Fundamentalists were those who did believe the miracles literally happened as reported. One of the miracles attacked early on was the virgin birth of Jesus and you will see Bishop Spong's reference to that in his theses.

The Twelve Theses

1.God

Understanding God in theistic categories as “a being, supernatural in power, dwelling somewhere external to the world and capable of invading the world with miraculous power” is no longer believable. Most God talk in liturgy and conversation has thus become meaningless.

2.Jesus – the Christ. If God can no longer be thought of in theistic terms, then conceiving of Jesus as “the incarnation of the theistic deity” has also become a bankrupt concept.

3.Original Sin – The Myth of the Fall

The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which we human beings have fallen into “Original Sin” is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.

4.The Virgin Birth

The virgin birth understood as literal biology is impossible. Far from being a bulwark in defense of the divinity of Christ, the virgin birth actually destroys that divinity.

5.Jesus as the Worker of Miracles

In a post-Newtonian world supernatural invasions of the natural order, performed by God or an “incarnate Jesus,” are simply not viable explanations of what actually happened.

6.Atonement Theology

Atonement theology, especially in its most bizarre “substitutionary” form, presents us with a God who is barbaric, a Jesus who is a victim and it turns human beings into little more than guilt-filled creatures. The phrase “Jesus died for my sins” is not just dangerous, it is absurd.

7.The Resurrection

The Easter event transformed the Christian movement, but that does not mean that it was the physical resuscitation of Jesus’ deceased body back into human history. The earliest biblical records state that “God raised him.” Into what, we need to ask. The experience of resurrection must be separated from its later mythological explanations.

8.The Ascension of Jesus

The biblical story of Jesus’ ascension assumes a three-tiered universe, which was dismissed some five hundred years ago. If Jesus’ ascension was a literal event of history, it is beyond the capacity of our 21st century minds to accept it or to believe it.

9.Ethics.

The ability to define and to separate good from evil can no longer be achieved with appeals to ancient codes like the Ten Commandments or even the Sermon on the Mount. Contemporary moral standards must be hammered out in the juxtaposition between life-affirming moral principles and external situations.

10.Prayer

Prayer, understood as a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history, is little more than an hysterical attempt to turn the holy into the servant of the human. Most of our prayer definitions of the past are thus dependent on an understanding of God that has died.

11.Life after Death

The hope for life after death must be separated forever from behavior control. Traditional views of heaven and hell as places of reward and punishment are no longer conceivable. Christianity must, therefore, abandon its dependence on guilt as a motivator of behavior.

12.Judgment and Discrimination

Judgment is not a human responsibility. Discrimination against any human being on the basis of that which is a “given” is always evil and does not serve the Christian goal of giving “abundant life” to all. Any structure either in the secular world or in the institutional church, which diminishes the humanity of any child of God on the basis of race, gender or sexual orientation must be exposed publicly and vigorously. There can be no reason in the church of tomorrow for excusing or even forgiving discriminatory practices. “Sacred Tradition” must never again provide a cover to justify discriminatory evil.

Source for Bishop Spong's theses in his own words are from Bishop Spong - 12 Theses of Progressive Christianity

It is wise to always weigh what is said in this world with what is said in the holy Scriptures, remembering Jesus' promise in the Gospel of John that the Holy Spirit would come -- He would guide us into the truth, teach us all things and show us things to come. (John 16) Jesus also clearly warned of the time coming when there would be many false prophets and teachers who would appear and deceive many! (Matthew 24).

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
[2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (KJV)].

Wednesday, June 19, 2019

Needed: A New ID for a Certain Group of Persons Claiming to Be Doctors!

Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace. [Isaiah 59:7-8 (KJV)]

A lot of time and expense are involved for a young person to obtain what is commonly referred to as a M.D. degree. After getting the degree they are referred to as doctors or physicians. Some engage in family practice and others choose to specialize in the practice of medicine. Some choose to become surgeons. All share one common goal which is to use their developed skills for the preservation of human life and improve its quality in every way possible.

However out of this large number of persons holding M.D. degrees there are some that eventually choose not to use their skills for the preservation of and improvement of the quality of human life! They have developed their skills originally to work with and treat pregnant females. They see these females on a regular basis from early weeks of pregnancy through to the birth of the child they have carried for about 9 months.

But in the lives of some of these doctors, a critical decision has been made. No longer will their developed skills be used to enhance and preserve life but to destroy human life! One of those who made such a tragic choice described it as living a life much more convenient and still gaining wealth! When treating pregnant females he was on a schedule of seeing them on a regular basis. Sometimes there were problems which required extra time and attention. And then when time for the birth of the baby came, he never knew at what hour of the day or night he might be called for the delivery at the hospital. And so the choice was made to become a “doctor of death” – that is, to engage in the practice of abortion at a special clinic existing for that purpose only or to do abortions at a hospital which sanctioned such practices!

Being an abortionist is much more convenient when it comes to scheduling. You work a few hours each day and do not have to see the pregnant female over a period of months. A time is set – she meets the appointment – is taken into a room and in a few minutes the “doctor” invades the womb, dismembers the baby, withdraws its parts, and makes sure he has all the parts laid out on the table! It is not good to leave a piece of a leg, or an arm, or a head inside the mother! Always a hefty fee is collected for this job and at the end of the day the “doctor” gets into his luxury automobile and drives home to his mansion to be with his wife and kids!

So, for this group a new ID should be given and no longer would they wear white coats with the following stitched above left breast pocket which says, John Doe, M.D. Rather it should be changed to say, John Doe, B.K. You should be able to figure out what the initials, B.K., represent. But if not, this is what they tell about the wearer of the white coat – John Doe, Baby Killer! The wearer of the coat is part of a group that has betrayed the medical profession and contributed to the murders of tens of millions unborn children since January 1973 when the U.S. Supreme Court said in a majority decision that it is a woman’s constitutional right to have her unborn child aborted if she so chooses to do so and that without any penalty whatsoever. And by implication the one who has conspired with such a female and does the actual killing will never be charged with murder in the first degree! Stitched behind his name on the white coat he wears should be the initials, B.K. – that is, Baby Killer, and never the initials M.D!

The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying, Stand in the gate of the Lord'S house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, are these. For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour; if ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever. Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; and come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord. But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel. And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not; therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh. And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim. [Jeremiah 7:1-15 (KJV)]

Saturday, March 9, 2019

Letter #5 to Bishop Cynthia Moore-Koikoi with Copies to the Cabinet!

The following letter was sent to Bishop Cynthia Moore-Koikoi and the District Superintendents of the Western Pennsylvania Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church following the special session of the General Conference held in St. Louis toward the end of February 2019. Purpose of the special session was an attempt to resolve the endless conflict over human sexuality. The main issue is in regard to homosexuality and whether it is morally legitimate or not. The Traditional Plan, one of three possibilities, was adopted at the conference. This means that the restrictive language regarding homosexuality as spelled out in the denomination's Book of Discipline will remain in place. No practicing homosexual or lesbian can be ordained for United Methodist ministry. No UM pastor is permitted to perform same-gender ceremonies/weddings. And no UM church is to be used for same-gender ceremonies/weddings. Enclosed was a letter submitted to the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat newspaper. This follows at the end of the letter to the bishop and the cabinet members.

March 5, 2019

To: Bishop Cynthia Moore-Koikoi and Members of the Cabinet

Subject: Approval of the Traditional Plan at General Conference 2019 and related issues.

I preached my first sermon on June 21, 1959 at two Methodist Churches to which I had just been appointed in the New Castle area. Most of clergy, including the bishop, in the W PA Conference were not around at that time. There may be a few who are older than I, but very few! If I and my congregations had been told at that time that the day would come when homosexuality and lesbianism would be practiced and accepted within the denomination, we would have said something like, “You’re crazy – it will never happen!” Unfortunately, I was very wrong on my prediction.

But one prediction that has not changed is the fact that adoption of the Traditional Plan has resulted in an ongoing conflict over the issue of human sexuality. It involves persons who believe God has clearly drawn the boundaries on human sexuality wherein same-sex intimacy is not merely regarded as a sin, but worse, as an abomination! Acceptable sexual experience and expression are strictly limited to one man and one woman living within the holy covenant of marriage!

There are those who disagree with the above, insisting that same-sex intimacy is just as morally legitimate as is the sexual union between a husband and wife. This is based on human reasoning, cultural changes, alleged scientific studies, etc.

There is an appeal that we learn to work together and put our differences aside. I have enclosed a letter recently submitted to the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat. In that I describe a simple illustration of an attempt to mix some motor oil and water. It cannot be done and with that I rest my case concerning the conflict on human sexuality!

For a number of years I had a homosexual person attending one of my churches. His partner was a Roman Catholic and faithfully attended mass at his church. The man was still attending my church regularly when I retired in 1996. I have been at times labeled as homophobic, unchristian, unloving, mean-spirited, hateful, deeply prejudiced, etc. If that is really true and I really am that kind of person due to my choice to agree with God and His view of same-sex intimacy, why did a homosexual keep attending my church for years? Perhaps some of you can explain that to me.

As mentioned in the letter, the shootout at a corral named the United Methodist Church continues unabated!

Clayton D. Harriger, Retired Elder in Full Connection
Western Pennsylvania Annual Conference
The United Methodist Church

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Editor

Tribune Democrat

The special General Conference of the United Methodist Church concluded recently with the approval of what is known as the Traditional Plan. This means that the restrictive language regarding homosexuality along with procedures for dealing with violations will remain in place in the denomination’s Book of Discipline which contains its church law. No practicing homosexual is to be ordained for ministry in the UMC. No UM pastor is to perform same-sex weddings. No UM church is to be used for same-sex weddings.

There is a marathon of comments and replies, both positive and very negative, taking place presently in social media regarding the outcome of the General Conference held in St. Louis. Somehow I was reminded of an event called the shootout at the O.K. Corral in the latter part of the 19th Century!

The issue can be illustrated rather simply. Take ½ pint of water and ½ pint of motor oil and put them in a clear quart container with a cap. Shake vigorously for a length of time and then set the container down. Eventually you will see a distinct line where one begins and the other ends! An auto technician will tell you that it is not a good thing to have both water and oil in the crankcase of your vehicle!

Meanwhile the shootout at a corral known as the United Methodist Church continues unabated.

Clayton D. Harriger
Retired Elder
Western PA Annual Conference
The United Methodist Church

Monday, February 11, 2019

Revised Letter to President Donald Trump

NOTICE: The letter on display here is one that has been revised and updated from the original sent to President Trump. This letter is sent to him periodically. A copy of this letter is also included in communications with all the members of the 116th Congress. These letters are sent either by fax or by USPS, depending on whether the senator or representative accepts fax messages.

President Donald Trump
Washington DC

Dear President Trump:

You and Vice President Pence have been chosen to lead our republic for four years until January 20, 2021. The choices you make and the policies implemented will determine whether our nation will prosper and survive or whether it will deteriorate and eventually collapse with the latter taking place due to judgment at the hands of Almighty God!

You continue to have a vicious uphill battle in doing what is right for this nation due to intense opposition from the mainstream (or is it slipstream) media, Democrats who do not want to see you succeed, rogue Republicans, and a number of church leaders and pastors! The latter group includes a sizable number of United Methodists due to the fact that their patron saint, Mrs. Bill Clinton, who opposed you in the presidential election in 2016, was defeated in her quest.

There are a number of major issues that need to be addressed in order to get our nation back on track after years of destructive policies which have taken place.

Certainly one policy that needs to be confronted and positive action taken is the intentional homicides of unborn children by the thousands each week. Thank you that you and Vice President Pence addressed the March for Life gathering in DC on January 18, 2019. This was in sharp contrast to your predecessor who is an ardent supporter of the policy of killing unborn children. The total number of unborn victims in the United States’ version of holocaust is about 61 million. We need to remember that Almighty God regards the “shedding of innocent blood” to be an abomination and if it is not stopped, He will respond with severe judgment in due time! A Supreme Court decision in 1973 paved the way for our republic to travel a path that will lead to certain disaster by declaring it is a woman’s “constitutional right” to conspire and have her unborn child intentionally murdered!

Two other SCOTUS decisions have also further paved the way to disaster. In 1963 the Supreme Court ruled that no longer was it permissible to have prayer and the reading of the Bible in public schools. And in 2015 the Court ruled that it is now legal for sodomites to marry each and for lesbians to marry each other throughout the United States! God has made plain the fact that same-gender sexual intimacy is an abomination in His sight!

A final issue that needs urgent attention is the out of control national debt. There must be an intentional plan implemented to reduce that mountain of debt as soon as possible. There is no way we can continue to increase the debt due to reckless spending and expect to survive! You will have a difficult time convincing the Congress to give serious attention to this crisis. I pray you will have success in regard to this pressing challenge.

May God’s best be your daily portion during the time you serve as our President.

Still contending at www.crrange.com, blogging at http://cdharriger.blogspot.com and warning at www.crrange.com/USACoffin.html

Clayton D. Harriger, Pastor
Isaiah 41:10

If my people, which are called by my name,
shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my
face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will
I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and
will heal their land.
[2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)]

Monday, January 14, 2019

Letter Now Being Sent to All Members of the 116th U.S. Congress!

Below you will find a letter now being sent to all members of the 116th United States Congress. This will take a bit of time since I have to update my files on the membership with changes involving recently elected senators and representatives. Over years past I have communicated with both the presidents who have been in office at the time as well as members of the Congress. Unfortunately they are unaware that our republic is perched on the very threshold of experiencing judgment at the hands of Almighty God, as are the majority of U.S. citizens!

TO: All Members of the 116th United States Congress

Subject: Critical issues which will impact our republic’s future destiny!

Enclosed is a letter sent to President Trump on a regular basis. It draws attention to extremely critical issues which are not widely recognized.

The most critical of these is the ongoing practice of intentionally murdering unborn children since the infamous Supreme Court decision of 1973. Over 60.75 million unborn children have been victims of planned homicide! We are a nation of fools of the first magnitude if we believe Almighty God is not going to make a full response to what could be defined as the United States version of Holocaust!

There are two other SCOTUS decisions which are in defiance of God’s standards for a sane, sensible, serene, stable, and secure culture. In 1963 the Court ruled that reading of the Bible and prayer in public schools would no longer be permitted. In 2015 the Court ruled that it is legal for homosexual men to marry each other and lesbian females to marry each other. God has clearly revealed that same-sex intimacy is an abomination!

Finally, we are a nation wallowing in debt. The national debt continues to worsen and the Congress, which seems to like to spend money like there is no tomorrow, does absolutely nothing to stop the financial hemorrhaging!

Will the 116th Congress take such action as needed to correct our destructive ethical, moral, and spiritual practices which are taking us down the road to judgment? You have the power to choose!

Still contending (Jude 3,4) at www.crrange.com and blogging at http://cdharriger.blogspot.com

Clayton D. Harriger, Pastor

“Good News! A Day Coming in Which All Politicians Will be Removed from Office” at http://crrange.com/comment69.html

Thursday, October 4, 2018

Sex and The United Methodist Church - AKA How to Paint Yourself into a Corner!

Human sexuality has been a battle ground in the United Methodist Church for decades. The present Book of Discipline has statements that some support and others want to have removed which particularly address the issue of homosexuality. The one statement that has been the target of attack at General Conference sessions over the years has been the wording that we believe homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching!

However, there are other statements that also speak to the issue. No avowed practicing homosexual is to be ordained for ministry in the United Methodist Church. No pastor is to perform a same-sex union ceremony or marriage. And no UM church is to be used for such events. Planned for early next year is a special session of the General Conference. The UMC bishops appointed a special commission to recommend a plan that would resolve this great divide or at least try to. And so “A Way Forward” has resulted in a final report to the General Conference which will meet in February of 2019.

In simple summary the report recommends removal of “restrictive” language of the Book of Discipline. Such statements relative to same-sex activity etc. have already been mentioned. Pastors, churches, and conferences would be free to choose what they will or will not do regarding the homosexual/lesbian issue.

The pressure continues to mount regarding acceptance of homosexual/lesbian lifestyles by all. We already have elected a lesbian bishop who presides over two conferences! That election was ruled to be illegal by the Judicial Council, but she is still a bishop and considered to be in “good standing!” We have at least one bishop who has done same-sex weddings and other bishops who are sympathetic and supportive of the homosexual/lesbian way of life!

Now having said that, are we United Methodists willing to take the next step and accept other sexual lifestyles as we are doing with homosexuality and lesbianism. Part of the rationale is that same-sex “couples” are living in loving and committed monogamous relationships. Therefore, we should accept them into the life and mission of the church. Also cited is the fact that slavery was once accepted and practiced by Christians. And the ordination of women was forbidden and supported by Christians. But now things have changed in our culture and we in the UMC do not believe in slavery and we now permit the ordination of women. And so we now have the growing acceptance of same-sex lifestyles in our culture and in our churches.

What will we do with couples that are in a fornication state of affairs? There are couples who live together and are not married. So sexually, they are doing a thing commonly referred to as fornication! They can claim they love each other and that they are committed and monogamous also.

How about Jane Doe and her German Shepherd, Spike? They have sexual relations but Jane declares she is loyal to Spike. Further, she wants to be an involved member of a United Methodist Church, claiming it is the “Christian” thing to do. But she also insists that Spike should be permitted to accompany her to church functions.

And there is John Doe and his Holstein heifer, Pansy. It’s the same with them as it is with Jane and Spike! And he believes there is nothing wrong with him and Pansy having sexual relations! He too wants to be a good and faithful member of a United Methodist church. By the way, Jane and John are cousins. Maybe this sex thing of a different kind runs in the Doe family line!

Oh yes, there is a small group of younger married couples who want to be church involved. When it comes to sexual activity they are different. They believe in practicing what is commonly referred to as “wife swapping!” While they admit that what they are doing is committing adultery, they claim everybody in the group agrees to the exchange of mates and enjoys doing so – therefore how can something that is so much fun be so wrong? About once a week they get together for “fun and games” – and besides, it gives each husband and wife a chance to do some comparing with how they do with someone else’s wife or husband!

Ooops! Careful now! You’re not going to try and say that the Bible condemns such activity as just mentioned and we could not allow people who do such things to be members and serve in some office capacity within the church, are you? Nope – it is not convincing! The same Bible that addresses such issues as fornication, adultery in its many forms, and sex with animals also clearly addresses same-sex intimacy! The latter is not identified as a sin but rather as an abomination! That is sin intensified many times over!

There is not one single phrase in the entire Bible in which God indicates that he has changed His mind and homosexuality and lesbianism are now accepted in His sight with His richest blessing upon such “couples!” A United Methodist bishop, by the way, wrote a piece as to how he came to change his mind about homosexuality. In his sight it is quite OK now!

But if the denomination moves further along and attempts to persuade all eventually that homosexuality and lesbianism are just as morally acceptable as heterosexual marriage, then it will also have to accept fornication, adultery, and bestiality as being morally acceptable as well, that is, if it is going to be consistent on the issue of human sexuality!

A not so subtle statement to lay a guilt trip on those who refuse to accept same-sex intimacy as being morally legitimate in the sight of God was made by the Commission on A Way Forward in its final report to the February 2019 special session of the General Conference. This is how it reads: “The condition of our heart to another person very much shapes the outcomes. If we have a heart at peace, we see the other as a person, with many needs, hopes and gifts. If we have a heart at war, we see the other as an object or an obstacle to our own desires and visions. In addition, a heart at war exaggerates the differences between persons in order to prepare to go to war with them. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. And when persons (or groups) are at war with each other, they escalate the conflict with each other in order to justify themselves, and can be in collusion with each other for the gain of their own group’s interests. The Commission worked diligently to continually condition ourselves to have hearts of peace. This essential work gave us the ability to get beyond our positions and to seek and discover the interests we have in common in terms of our faith, our Biblical understandings, our love for The United Methodist Church, and our Christ’s mission to reach the world with the transforming power of God.”

Just a final question in regard to that statement: Would those who came up with that statement say that God always has a “heart of peace” or did He maybe have a “heart of war” when He wiped out all the members of the human race except for 8 people who were on board an ark built by a man named Noah and his 3 sons?

Wednesday, July 25, 2018

Still Another Letter to Leadership of the W. PA Conference of the United Methodist Church!

July 25, 2018

To: Bishop Cynthia Moore Koikoi and Cabinet members of W. Pennsylvania Annual Conference: Sung Chung, Dawn Hand, Bradford L. Lauster, J. Patrick Lenox, Patricia M. Nelson, Eric Park, James N. Pond, Jodie Barron Smith, Dennis Swineford, Robert F. Zilhaver

Lots of news and a myriad of comments via social media about the United Methodist Church dealing with a thing called, “A Way Forward.” Of course it can be seriously debated as to whether it is really a way forward or a way backward!

The plan at the forefront as presented by denominational leadership is nothing less than an effort to have universal acceptance of same-sex intimacy/marriage as being morally acceptable without objection. The promotion of this objective was obvious in the Order of Elders meetings held in recent months. The first statement in a visual presentation was this: “We are all children of God.” That is blatantly false! John in his letter divides the human race into two categories – children of God and children of the Devil. Paul in a confrontation with one person called that individual a child of the Devil. Most importantly Jesus in a dispute with a group of persons said they were of their father, the Devil! Most would agree that you cannot be a child of God and a child of the Devil at the same time – that would produce quite a hybrid, wouldn’t you say?

At the conference web site the following statement is made: “Led by a resident Bishop, the Conference is governed both by the denomination's Book of Discipline and actions agreed on by clergy and lay representatives of its local churches who meet each in an Annual Conference session.” We elders took vows at ordination which included obedience to the Discipline. It is obvious that a number of elders throughout the USA have made liars of themselves in regard to such vows regarding the doctrine and discipline of the UMC! At least one bishop has done same-sex weddings and a former “leader” of the W. PA Conference now supports the sodomite/lesbian agenda! And we now have a practicing lesbian who was illegally elected to the office of bishop and nothing is being done about that violation!

And now for the question: if any of you superintendents discover that a pastor in your district has done a same-sex wedding in his/her church, what will you do? According to the Discipline, this would require action to be taken because not only has God’s Word been violated but also the UMC Discipline! Your decisive action in following the Discipline would also assume support of the bishop in dealing with the issue.

Still contending (Jude 3,4)

Clayton D. Harriger, retired elder and member of W. PA Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church

NOTE: For those reading this blog, statements were made about references in Scripture related to some people being "children of the devil." The references are 1 John 3, Acts 13:10, and John 8.